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Nicholas Westberg's avatar

Thanks for the article, Ian. I greatly appreciate provocative theses, as they help to clarify critical points in debate and allow for better distinctions to be drawn. As for your argument, I ultimately think that your thesis about how to classify simulists et al. is wrong. The key distinction between classical theism and atheism to my mind depends upon answers to the following two questions: (1) whether there exists something which is a necessary/ungrounded, and (2) whether everything else depends upon this being. Classical theists answer both questions in the affirmative. On this view, the only thing which can meaningfully count as God thus is a necessary/ungrounded being on which all other beings depend. By definition, the various 'creators' which are nested Russian-doll-like according to the "simulist" hypothesis fail to meet this criterion.

I think the main issue is that the "simulist" hypothesis aims to reduce the 'creator' figure to something whose properties are strictly physical (whatever one takes "physical" to entail).

This being said, you are indeed right to highlight a unique opportunity. These various pop-sci views present an opening for Christians to discuss classical issues of metaphysics, cosmology, and meaning.

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Michael Yost's avatar

Stimulating reading, Ian. It does seem to me that we are still very far from the pure transcendence of traditional philosophy and religion, whether Brahman, Plotinus' "One," or Aristotle's "Thought Thinking Itself." Even religiously inclined moderns have an insufficient grasp of the reality of immaterial things; something that continually puzzles me when I consider the implications mathematics has for the possibility of immaterial being, let alone something like consciousness.

A good read.

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